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Old February 17th, 2015, 08:48 PM
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Is it just me, or has the niter been really bad the last few years? I've had a devil of a time keeping the niter from baking on the front pan. Last year, had to stop and swap out front pan every 6 hours. I haven't been doing the syruping thing that long and was wondering if this was normal, or will it get better. I will say, filtering has been better for me the last few years.
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Old February 17th, 2015, 11:06 PM
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Last year was the worst for me for sugar sand and niter. Now I don't know if it was the RO and the concentrate I was bringing it to that caused it. I also heard from other producers in my area that they were dealing with a lot. I wonder if its because were on limestone beds with shallow ground.
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Old February 18th, 2015, 07:25 AM
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I hate looking at those pictures. I need to figure out a faster, less clumsy way to switch out the front pans. New pan plugs that fit correctly will be step one. We don't have limestone here where I'm at; a few inches of top soil, 2 Ft. of silty clay, then "hard pan" down several Ft. Does defoamer make things worse, I wonder?
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Chuck, I cant recall ever seeing it that bad. Were you able to clean it all off?
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We get our share too, I have had draw off valves plug during a boil, not good👎
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Cleaning was about the same as other years. The sand was horrific at times and when you looked in the pan during the boil it looked like quicksand. I still am working on a way to separate sand as it goes from pan to pan.

I had my pans built with a secondary draw of box on the that sits right at the dividers so I can drain them quick. This set up made clean up quicker.
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Cleaning was about the same as other years. The sand was horrific at times and when you looked in the pan during the boil it looked like quicksand. I still am working on a way to separate sand as it goes from pan to pan.

I had my pans built with a secondary draw of box on the that sits right at the dividers so I can drain them quick. This set up made clean up quicker.
Wow that's a tight fit time to knock that wall out.
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When the niter is real bad, are you guys draining and cleaning the flue pan everyday?
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Yea the building was great with a 2x8 in it but 3ft takes up a lot of walking room.

I clean every day either with a pan switch or drain and total clean.
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Chuck do you generate enough permeate to " Chasing the Sweet " each boil? Can quality and cleanliness be improved by doing so... I'm beginning to wondering if the term is a real thing or hearsay...

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