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Old August 2nd, 2017, 10:25 AM
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Next question from me... 14 acre lot right on a township road with a couple of neighbours not far away yet no power available in the bush. What is my best bet for setting up vac for 850 taps? I could run a small but quiet generator but there is always the risk of theft or annoying the locals. I have read up on 12 volt systems on battery but figure that would be as much of a PITA as buckets trying to keep them charged. Local neighbours aren't a problem from a security standpoint but who knows who lives just down the road which gives me concerns over a generator. Chains, padlocks, small work shed, ... ideas?
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Do the neighbors have power? Might want to look into what it would cost to have the utility company run a service to your sugarbush if the lines aren't that far away.

I've also seen a couple companies making vac pumps that run off a gas motor, eliminating the need for a generator. That seems like the most economical option to me.
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First, if you are considering a guzzler you could figure out power consumption and use batteries and solar panels to charge. A small generator would still be needed if you get a string of no sun days. Just remember very little gas to purchase and carry in with this set-up. Gen only runs for charge.
Second, if you are going with a dairy or other electric vacuum pump consider a small shed, the newer generators are very quiet (at least the brand name ones) and noise can be muffled or dampened. A lock is a good idea along with heavy chain. Don't forget about one of the newer silent game camera to check out the wild life or others that may be around.
Electricity is nice , but not always an option, just work out the cost differences short term and long.
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Chains, padlocks, small work shed, ... ideas?
A small shed is a good idea just so the equipment is less visible and so any potential thieves don't have an idea of what to expect to have to take it or can't tell what tools (chain-cutter) they need to bring with them.

Once inside the shed, a heavy chain and padlock on the equipment hooked to a cement block buried a few feet deep will slow them down some. You can't ever make it impossible, but instead just make it difficult and time consuming, neither of which thieves like.

Alternatively, put it closer to your house (or the neighbors house) and transfer the vacuum through a long and large pipeline.
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I've run 2 sugar bushes where the vacuum pumps ran off gas engines. If you go with a conventional vac pump you are better off putting the engine on the pump. When you use a generator it has to run at full speed, if the engine is sized right it can run a 2/3 full throttle which is the best fuel economy on most engines. I've never had a theft or vandal issue, but my pumps were not able to be seen from the road. One of mine was 900' from the road, the other only 40' but it sat in an old cellar hole that was 6' deep.
Just build a barricade to hide it.
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How many feet away from your place is this lot?
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Depending on proximity could you make a deal with neighbor to use their power.
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I would like to agree with the idea of a shed/ house for the pump to sit into. Ideal would be IMO would something large enough to have the tank in also, but at least a place to put the pump into so it's not in the elements. It can also serve as a place to keep tools and supplies needed to do any repairs throughout the season
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