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just ordered new RO from Ray now what is considered a good boiling time to avoid a lot of dark syrup from sitting in pan during shutdown and startup running a 4x12 raised flue wood fired withAUF
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want to help you out but not really understanding your question
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As soon as you can collect it and concentrate it into the evap. Your cooking time is based on how high of a concentration you decide to take the sap to. The higher you concentrate the quicker it will spoil so get it done.
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to rephrase my ? with 1600 taps concentrating to 6 percent this should leave about 640 gallons of concentrate boiling at 150 gallons per hour about a 4 hour boil is this going to be enough boil time to get all the part boiled sap out of the pans from previous boiling to make lighter syrup or am I going to be just getting the old out the new in then shutting down and letting the fresh set in pans to the next boil constantly making darker syrup? Jake I see you have the same size rig how long before you start making lighter syrup after startup each day thanks for the info Jim
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4 to 5 hours shouldnt be an issue. It is the < 1 1/2 that will start getting to you.
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Jimbison now I understand the question and its a good one. One of the dilemmas is what to do with near syrup in the pan. Is it better to let it sit in the dirty pan and the pan is dirty. Filter into a clean container until pans are cleaned up. I believe this last season I let my concentrate sit to long and need to do some changing in how I cook. Im thinking I need to not concentrate until Im ready to cook it.
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Jim as it goes with any boiling it seems that once the rig warms up and you process sap through out the day the syrup seems to lighten. Now to give you a direct answer we saw a grade change normally within the first 2 draws. These were about 16-18 quart draws. This was when we left the sweet in the pan from the previous boil. As the season went on we actually started pushing water through at the end of each boiling to make sure the concentrate in pans wouldn't start to sour. I thnk it working cause we only made a small amount of dark. Everything else was light and medium..... Even our commericial was in the color spectrum of medium. We concentrated between 6-8% but our rig was processing between 240-250 gph. At least this is what I had to run the ro concentrate side to keep up with the rig. So if you are doing less it may take a daw or 2 more before you get into the new stuff. I hope this helps?
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What size RO did you order from Ray?
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500gph gas powered a mile from power only option 4=5 hour boils will be easy after the 8-12 ones just looking for tips from people to speed the learning curve thank you all Jim
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Jim having a RO for the last 2 years Im still redoing things to make it quicker and easier. My suggestions get good step saver hose and good SS cam locks. You can never have enough valves and drains. The sport of Maple syrup is all about repetition and if you can save a few seconds here and a few minuets there you will have more time in the woods. Good luck with it and enjoy the time saved.
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