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Old April 19th, 2014, 06:30 AM
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Anyone use a Water Guy RO? I noticed them on eBay for a fair price with shipping and wonder if they might serve my need for a low cost RO option. I'm hoping to upgrade to 400 taps on vacuum and another 120 roadside taps on buckets. With paying for a tubing and vacuum upgrade I won't be able to afford the $7-10k needed to buy a commercial maple RO. My sugar making time is more limited with my work schedule and I'd like to take my sap from around 2% up to 8% in one pass. I'm not sure if I would need 125GPH or 250GPH either, as I don't know what my sap yields will be.
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Ray Gingerich's models are much more popular and a little less expensive. Plus he is a sugar maker.
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I believe customer service is the key to any piece of equipment that has more than 1 moving part. Just because its a commercial unit doesn't mean its going to be the best. I would consider the fact that you can recirculate the raw sap and concentrate to get to higher numbers just by turning a valve and then the unit will shut off when done. Water Guys make more than just little units so I would consider them.
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There was a Waterguy unit just down the road from me. He now has one of Ray's units and is much happier.

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Unless waterguy ro's has been redesigned they would only remove 50% of water and do not recirculation built in machine. It is a decent machine for money but is better if they are run like a lot of people are running their homebuild ro's and recirculating sap in a large tank.
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Thanks for the feedback. It looks like I'm more money well spent at either doing a home build like wishlist's or buying one of Ray's RO's, since I can't afford a Springtech, CDL, D&G etc. Can anyone help me figure out what size I may need? I don't see me expanding past 600-700 total taps. In the year ahead I'm going to try and get 300-400 taps on vacuum and keep my 100-120 roadside taps on buckets & sacks . I still want to keep with my 2x6 Mason drop tube AUF. I'm just short on the time to both boil and collect, so I'd like an RO to speed up boil time and spend time getting more sap in the woods. I hope the vacuum helps speed up collecting and yield more sap too. Though I know I'll still be spending time checking for and fixing leaks.

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hey rumor has it Andy Kinter (Mapleack) was looking at a Lapierre 600gph ro to replace his Lapierre 250. give him a pm either here or on trader or on both and see if he's interested in selling the 250 if that's something that interests you.
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Ray's 250 model would probably be a good fit for you.
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I have the same evaporator. In my opinion you want to size RO to your rig. Mine was rated 250. I found out my pumps would do more so I added 2 more 4" membranes. Now it will actually do about 370. I run through once taking out about 2/3 into another tank. Then run it through again taking out 2/3 again into my feed tank. I find this fouls membranes less than recirculating to same tank. This year I boiled 10-18%. 18% will keep you on your toes with this rig. I would hate to do it without a press. I find I need to clean front pan at about 20 gallons.
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