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Old January 2nd, 2018, 04:59 PM
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Thinking about getting a propane-fired tankless, also known as on-demand water heater, for the shack this year so we have instant hot water. Has anyone else experimented with these? any thoughts on brands or particular models?
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 06:42 PM
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I've had 2 over the years, I run them on propane, heating permeate in season and city water between seasons. Both were bought at Sportsmaqn's guide. The first was their smallest unit because I simply wanted to determine if that approach would work. It did fine, but was slow. It heated plenty hot but took longer than I wanted. I think it took 12-14 minutes to fill my 15 gal RO wash tank with about 115 F water. I used that for 3 seasons, then I bought a bigger size, this one heats about 2.6 GPM (I think) to 120F. I like that speed. I never thought of it on the first unit, but on this one I even use it to bring the temp back up, because as soon as the water gets mixed with the cold in the membranes, the water loses temp fast. I now, when the RO is running, run all of the permeate flow back thru the heater until the water in the tank again feels hot. When doing that I likely run 3.5 or 4 GPM thru the heater, but it only takes a few minutes to get the whole tank hot again. This is what I now have: https://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...ater?a=1588404
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I have a bulk propane tank at the sugarhouse, which fuels my RO room heater, my finisher, my arch lighter (a 500,000BTU weed burner) and the HW heater, it fueled a propane fired canner before I got a WJ canner.
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How do you have your permeate plumbed into your heater?
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 06:26 PM
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I have a line that comes off the bottom valve of the permeate tank that feeds my RO when on rinse, in that line I have a T that runs a 3/4" line into the sugarhouse. As it enters the sugarhouse the first thing is a ball valve, then a diaphragm pump. That pump is 120V. From the pump a line goes to feed my cold water valve. Before it gets to that valve, I have a T , up to a ball valve then into the HW heater. On the outlet I have a potable water hose. In cold temps when done for the day, I drain the heater, shut off the pump, and drain the supply lines. When freezing is not an issue I just leave the valves closed. The lines do not have a heat tape and insulation on them, but I may add that at some point, but since my sugarhouse is not heated I'd still need to drain the heater. To drain it, I unplug the pump, open the supply and outlet valves and remove 1 drain plug on the bottom of the tankless heater.
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